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The reward for showing wellness works is now $3 million!

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2021 Update — we aren’t just “outing” the worst. Instead we are claiming to be the best: The reward now applies to any behavior-change vendor — diabetes, wellness etc. — vs. Quizzify. $3 million is yours if found by the 5 judges (and remember, we only appoint one!) to be more cost-effective than Quizzify.

Here are the specific rules to claim the reward.

Almost any behavior-change vendor (e.g., Virgin Pulse, Bravo, Accolade, Livongo) is eligible to claim the reward. A “behavior change” vendor would be one whose value depends on employees doing something voluntarily or with an incentive/penalty, paid via an admin fee. Eligible categories include wellness, diabetes, weight loss, mental health, sleep, coaching, EAPs, “challenges” programs, fitness, nutrition, navigation, patient-centered medical homes, and price-shopping companies.

We say “almost any” because behavior change vendors that we work with are ineligible because we help them dramatically increase engagement. For instance, Sera Prognostics enhances its guarantee if Quizzify is also used, and we enhance ours.

Also ineligible are those featured favorably in Cracking Health Costs and Why Nobody Believes the Numbers. And Virta, which legitimately reverses diabetes.

If indeed a vendor considers itself to be a behavior change company and Quizzify looks at it and says, no, this is not behavior change, the vendor may announce that Quizzify rejected their application. The vendor may then apply to the Validation Institute to arbitrate whether it is a behavior change company or not. If it wins, Quizzify agrees to pay for its validation.


Selection of Judges

There will be five judges, selected as follows:

  • Each side gets to appoint one, drawn from The Healthcare Hackers listserve with more 1000 people on it, from all walks of healthcare.
  • Two are appointed objectively. That will be whichever health services researchers/health economists are the most influential at the time the reward is claimed. “Most influential” will be measured by a formula: the highest ratio of Twitter followers/Twitter following, with a minimum of 15,000 followers.
  • Those four judges will agree on the fifth.

Using the criteria below, the judging will be based largely on value per dollar of the program spent on the program and incentives. In the event this is considered to be roughly a tie, the judges will consider the validity of their measurement and whether they are validated by the Validation Institute.


Written submissions

Each side submits up to 2,000 words and five graphs, supported by as many as 20 links; the material linked must pre-date this posting to discourage either side from creating linked material specifically for this contest.

Publicly available materials from the lay media or blogs may be used, as well as from any of the 10 academic journals with the highest “impact factors,” such as Health Affairs, published within the last ten years.

Each side must:

  1. list their average prices per employee per year
  2. speak to compliance with ACA, ADA, USPSTF, and Choosing Wisely;
  3. allow the other to test its materials (for example, taking the health risk assessment) and review them as part of the submission.

Each party may separately cite previous invalidating mistakes made by the other party that might speak to the credibility of the other party. (There is no limit on those.)


Oral arguments

The judges may rule just on the basis of the written submissions. If not, the parties will convene online for a 2.5-hour presentation (or, at the discretion of the judges, in-person at the World Health Care Congress), featuring:

  • 10-minute opening statements, in which as many as 10 slides are allowed;
  • 30-minute cross-examinations with follow-up questions and no limitations on subject matter;
  • 60 minutes in which judges control the agenda and may ask questions of either party based on either the oral or the written submissions;
  • Five-minute closing statements.

Entry process

The entry process is:

  1. Applicant puts $3000 into escrow, at which point an NDA is signed and Quizzify/Quizzify guarantors (“Quizzify”) demonstrate liquid assets exceeding $3 million. Applicant may either go forward at this point, or forfeit the $3000.
  2. Applicant adds $27,000, at which point earning assets exceeding $3,000,000 are placed in escrow, though the income from the escrow does not go to the applicant. Assuming the $3,000,000 is sufficiently secured, applicant may either go forward, or forfeit the $30,000. If not secured, Quizzify pays the applicant $100,000.
  3. Applicant adds $270,000 to the escrow within 30 days, at which point the entry process is completed. Both sides then have 30 days to submit materials and 7 days to rebut. Online argument then takes place, if needed.
  4. Judges are paid from the escrow, 50-50 from Quizzify’s and applicant’s shares.
  5. If the applicant pulls out after publicly announcing he or she is applying and before adding the $270,000, there is a $50,000 liquidated damages fee, tripled if it has to be procured through litigation. If Quizzify pull outs, there is a $150,000 liquidated damages fee in favor of the applicant, tripled if it is procured through litigation.
  6. The winner collects the escrow.

June 2021 Update: Virgin Pulse’s one-page outcomes report is eligible.  They can win just by defending one single slide with as much backup as they want.


March 2021 Update: Wellsteps can claim double the reward ($6 million) for half the entry fee ($150,000) simply by showing that their ROI calculator is more accurate than Quizzify’s


January 2021 Update: Omada is claiming outcomes on their home page that are textbook examples of both regression to the mean and participant bias. They are aware this is not valid. They can claim this reward by defending their specious claims.


December 2020 Update: This reward is now applicable to any actuary or other self-proclaimed expert who claims that their published analyses of the wellness/diabetes/disease management industries showing favorable outcomes and savings are better than mine showing losses and general cluelessness. 




Here is the original offer and how it is changed.

As almost everyone in the wellness industry knows, we have offered a $2 million reward to anyone who can show that conventional annual “pry, poke and prod” wellness saves money. I’m feeling very generous today, what with the holidays upon us, so let’s make the reward $3 million.

Even more importantly, let’s loosen the rules — a lot —  to encourage applicants. You’ll find the $3 million reward is not just more generous, but also far easier to claim than the previous $2 million reward.


Special Offer for HERO

Ah, yes, the Health Enhancement Research Organization (HERO). The belly of the beast.

Let me make them a special offer. Paul Terry, the current HERO Prevaricator-in-Chief, has accused me of the following  (if you link, you’ll see they had enough sense not to use my name, likely on advice of counsel, given that I already almost sued them after they circulated their poison pen letter to the media):

I’m convinced responding to bloggers who show disdain for our field is an utter waste of time. I’ve rarely been persuaded to respond to bloggers [Editors note, in HERO-speak, “rarely” means “never” — except for that intercepted Zimmerman Telegram-like missive], and each time I did it affirmed my worry that, more than a waste, it’s counter-productive. That’s because they’ll not only incessantly recycle their original misstatements, but worse, they’ll misrepresent your response and use it as fodder for more disinformation.*

Tell ya what, Paul. let’s debate disinformation, including your letter.

I have asked you on multiple occasions to clue me in as to what my alleged disinformation actually is, if any. That way I can publicly apologize and fix it, should I choose to do so.  Before applying for this award, you need to disclose this alleged disinformation. You can’t just go around saying my information is made up etc. without specifying what it is.

By definition, “disinformation” is deliberate misrepresentation. To my knowledge, as a member of the “integrity segment” of the wellness industry, I have never, and would never, spread disinformation.

On the other hand, if I did spread inadvertently incorrect information by mistake, it seems only fair to let me fix it — especially given that I have been totally transparent and generous with my time in explaining to you what yours is, and how to correct it. (I might have missed some. Keeping up with yours is a challenge of Whack a Mole-meets-White House press correspondent proportions.)

So perhaps it is time to man up, Mr. Terry.  You and your cronies claim to have been collecting my “disinformation” for years, without disclosing any of it. I’m offering you a public forum and $3-million to present it…with only one of 5 judges on “my” side.

Otherwise, perhaps you should, in the immortal word(s) of the great philosopher Moe Howard, shaddap.


*As a side note, Mr. Terry writes: “We’re fortunate to work in an industry with a scant number of vociferous critics.” This “scant” number appears to include the entire medialeft-wing, right-wing, centrist, and health policyApparently also most employees, according to Towers Watson. The good news about “pry, poke and prod” is that it truly bridges the partisan divide, in that everyone hates it.


 


16 Comments

  1. drjonrobison says:

    Great stuff – cannot wait to hear Terry respond! Also looking forward to joint celebrations of the holidays this season in the middle east! – Dr. Jon

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    • whynobodybelievesthenumbers says:

      These people are like my little dog. When a big dog is on a leash, he barks incessantly. But if a big dog is off a leash, he runs away.

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  2. Mitch Collins says:

    Al: I am deeply concerned about you. Just what do you have against “THC-infused quixotry?” I’ve heard good things about it:)

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    • whynobodybelievesthenumbers says:

      I’m all for it, except as a business model. Their latest? Apparently simply admitting to know me is enough to get disinvited from speaking, because there is an off-chance someone who knows me might say something sensible. The only way they win a debate is by preventing it. The GOP should put them in charge of voter registration rules.

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  3. Sam Lippe says:

    They’ll probably accuse you of bullying them

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    • whynobodybelievesthenumbers says:

      Yes, likely some whiney ad hominem attack. They can’t challenge me on the merits because they have no merits. Bullying is pretty much of a stretch because bullies don’t generally offer rewards, but they are out of other options. More than likely, they won’t say anything — debate creates a news cycle, and news cycles are one of their biggest nightmares.

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  4. Marissa says:

    Are you really willing to take this chance?

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    • whynobodybelievesthenumbers says:

      It’s not a chance. I only bet on sure things. And one thing is sure: HERO can’t win this reward. They are simply not smart enough to lie convincingly to a panel of five thoughtful evaluators. If they were truly skilled at the art of deception, they would have gone into the PBM industry, where liars can make some real money.

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  5. […] for some reason don’t realize they aren’t doing their members any favors here, because mandatory screening loses money, even according to the wellness industry’s own trade association, and can also harm employees), […]

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  6. Is this still valid? What are criteria for judging? Is this civil rule of more likely than not to have saved with a 4 to 1 majority needed or not? Can we present Trendline from 3 customers of over 10000 employees each and one
    Non randomized study in one group of 10 hospitals matched with 11 hospitals whose employees were not offered the wellness program. Thus 4 health systems or corps that avoided spending 17,35,38 and 46% compared to other hospitals in their system
    Or industry trends. If that is shown, would the 3 million be
    Awarded or the legal entity find a technicality to not pay

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    • whynobodybelievesthenumbers says:

      (1) Question is, does wellness save money?
      (2) Majority of judges only — you don’t need 4 on your side to win.
      (3) You’re not one of the vendors who has been invalidated and who can thus apply using their own data — and the specific rule is that you have to be a named dishonest vendor to claim savings based on your own data. So that is a “technicality” in the sense that the rules say it’s about wellness as a whole industry, with the exception being for the 5 most dishonest wellness vendors.

      There is no “technicality” on not paying. That is quite clearly laid out in the rules.

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  7. […] None whatsoever. The entry fee is $300,000, and, believe me, it’s worth [the risk] with this impartial panel of five judges, of which I only get to appoint one and the burden of proof is on me. They don’t have a chance, which explains why nobody has tried to take me up on it. […]

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  8. […] None whatsoever. The entry fee is $300,000, and, believe me, it’s worth [the risk] with this impartial panel of five judges, of which I only get to appoint one and the burden of proof is on me. They don’t have a chance, which explains why nobody has tried to take me up on it. […]

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  9. […] to submit to these programs (“I’d like to punch them in the face,” said one), and they invariably lose money. However, the losses in program fees and employee morale — all admitted by the wellness […]

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